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dredging permit
« on: June 28, 2015, 05:23:17 PM »
where do you get a permit for private property

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 08:23:26 PM »
TDEC (Tennessee Dept of Environment and Conservation). Call the Knoxville Office
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2015, 08:38:10 PM »
The New General ARAP (the one we can work with) has not been released yet so the only one available is the one released last year, which was not workable.  It may be a few weeks before the new one is out as it got caught up with several others that TDEC wants to release together.  At least one of them had an extended public comment period granted so the public comment period was extended for them all.
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2015, 01:02:19 PM »
Thank you for the Update Chip.  I often look here daily seeking information on what will come July 1st, 2015.  I live in Chattanooga, TN., and I hope to some year hike the A.T., (Appalachian Trail).  I would like to do it with a backpackers gold pan doubling as my dinner plate ;) could you think of a better way to rockhound & gold pan, but sorting laws & permitted areas in over 100 State Parks & National Forestry Lands, in 14 states, is as big a job as researching all those interlocking trails that make up the Appalachian Trail.   I have seen gemstones laying bare out all over the trail itself in some portions of youtube hiker videos, no one even mentions them.  I guess they don't know what they are seeing or they already know they may not collect in that particular area.  I have much to learn.  So, again I thank you for all updates on these types of situations concerning the plight of all gold panners.
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 01:41:27 PM »
Funny you should mention the gems on the AT.  I hiked a stretch many years ago that had so many Garnets on it the trail dust was red.  There were rocks you passed that were inlaid with them.  They were great but at the time my thought was "do I really want to add that weight to my pack?"  Needless to say they stayed on the trail and I moved along.
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 02:23:05 PM »
Funny you should mention the gems on the AT.  I hiked a stretch many years ago that had so many Garnets on it the trail dust was red.  There were rocks you passed that were inlaid with them.  They were great but at the time my thought was "do I really want to add that weight to my pack?"  Needless to say they stayed on the trail and I moved along.

You will probably be getting questions from Russ and Twosocks as to what the GPS co-ordinance would be for those garnets. LOL

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 04:43:18 PM »
You posted just ahead of me.

Yes, we would like to know which section of the App Trail you were on .

GPS co ord would be even more helpful.

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 05:12:48 PM »
Yes where are nthe Gems. I will share when we find them

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 06:13:50 PM »
Yes where are nthe Gems. I will share when we find them

They are on the Appalachian Trail between Georgia and Maine. Does that help?  ;D
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 07:17:52 PM »
It's been twenty years, but if I recall correctly, it was on a stretch just north of the Georgia border.  The trail has a nice horseshoe bend that is nice for a weekend loop.  It was about halfway through that loop I saw them.
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2015, 09:34:27 PM »
Chip , I appreciate the tip. I have a friend who is about 1/2 of the way thru hiking the Trail. He has a map in his office. I'll check with him.

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2015, 07:53:04 PM »
I have never hiked the A.T.   I only hope to.   It is my kind of thing.   But here is one of the many videos I have seen gemstones laying in the trail in.  After reviewing too many today to find one for you, I found a note mentioning blue rocks in this one at 16:46 thru 16:48.  It may have shown more, it may not have.  I viewed about 6 videos looking for them already today.  I am tired.  I didn't post the link, don't know rules on links, and you all don't know me so well yet.  But hopefully one day, I will get to know many of you, pan a few nuggets together. :)  Weigh ourselves down with gemstones.  :D    The video is google-able on youtube . com  titled:  "Scribbles 2011 Appalachian Trail Thru Hike"  It has no narration, idk, it sometimes shows signs, & what day of her hike it was, that may help determine where.  It was Day 56.  She had just passed a sign for Eastern Continental Divide then shortly after on Day 57 or Day 58 passes a sign for Dragon's Tooth Trail & Route 311 Parking Lot.    Hope it helps the adventurous.

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2015, 07:56:22 PM »
Oh, please any comments on what anyone thinks these are, I'd appreciate.  I think at this distance I don't have enough experience to be sure. In the hand might be another story altogether.  So, please lots of comments.

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2015, 08:30:14 PM »
Thank You I'll check this out.

Each Clue helps.

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2015, 07:37:19 AM »
And the mystery thickens !

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2015, 08:26:40 AM »
Not sure what kind of mineral this could be; possibly quartz due to how plentiful the area seems to be covered.
Stop video at 16.46 and view full screen mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqe7q16k7KY

For anyone interested....

Dragon's Tooth Trail is located North-West of Roanoke, VA in the Jefferson National Forest.

Dragon?s Tooth s a unique geologic feature that consists of Tuscarora quartzite spires which outcrop on the top of Cove Mountain. The tallest "tooth" projects roughly 35 feet above the surrounding rock. The trail to Dragon's Tooth ascends steep, rugged outcrops of quartzite which form the spine of Cove Mountain and North Mountain. The spine is known as Dragon's Back. A difficult hike, Dragon's Tooth summit offers magnificent views of nearby and distant peaks year-round.

 Directions to Trailhead

    From Roanoke - take I-81 south to Exit 141
    Turn left at the traffic light onto Rt. 419 (Electric Rd.) and follow 0.4 miles to next traffic light (Rt. 311)
    Turn right onto Rt. 311N and follow for 10 miles
    Dragon?s Tooth parking lot is on left just past Catawba Grocery
 ~ 4.5 mile round trip, out and back hike
 ~ Moderate to difficult
 ~ 20 minutes from downtown Roanoke



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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2015, 09:40:15 AM »
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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2015, 09:48:37 AM »
Okay, Pay attention to the Day & Time Shifts.    Day 56, Wednesday, June 1, 2011, at 8:38 A.M. - We are at the Big Tree.      Day 56, Wednesday, June 1, 2011, at 11:54 A.M. We are just passing the Eastern Continental Divide Trails Crossing of the A.T..    Day 56, Wednesday, June 1, 2011, at 6:(53?) P.M. Blueish Rocks in Trail.  Day 57, Thursday, June 2, 2011, at 10:03 A.M. We are at the Trail Crossing Signs for Dragon's Tooth Trail as it crosses the A.T.    So, it is narrowed, but hikers often walk 20 miles in a day, especially by days 56 & 57 when they have become more fit, & if the terrain was easier or more difficult, they speed up or slow down.  That Big Tree may be a state line crossing, I have seen it in nearly every hiker's videos.

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Re: dredging permit
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2015, 09:57:09 AM »
Nice article on Blue Quartz Chip, I am still reading it. Do to the plentifulness of the blue rocks shown in the trail, I'd have to say Chip has definitely Identified these specimens correctly.   I guess I shouldn't show anyone the green rock. lol  It looks more of a solid color, not like glassy.  lol, it is at 20:44 sitting on a sign in video "Fitty Shrimp on the Appalachian Trail HD"  You all can kick my butt later.   All I can say for myself is:  "If I lived where there were minerals, I'd have my eyes on the ground all the time."  Even on sign posts. ;)
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